Springfield Airsoft
General Category => General Airsoft => Topic started by: netshark993 on January 18, 2011, 09:35:24 PM
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anyone know anything about ICS as a company? do they make quality goods? i was trolling through some airsfot guns and came across something diffrent. i kinda like it. http://www.icsbb.com/web_e/html/02_products/show.aspx?kind1=3&kind2=19&kind3=24&num=57
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Sometimes the ICS is hard to get parts for. I had to finally go buy parts at regular price just to get a guy back his gun back after 8 months of us having it.
Jon
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eh. that could be bad... are the m4's hard to get parts for?
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The M16 was the gun we had to be fixed I believe. it has been a year since then so i can't remember all the details.
Jon
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oh, thanks jon. whats a good manufacturer of full metal guns? i like the weight and feel of the metal ones rather than plastic
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I am sure you do. Metal always feels better. Remember that isn't what always makes a great Airsoft gun.
There are alot out there. Depends what you want to spend. I will see you next weekend for nova's game.
Jon
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I've owned several products from ICS over the years, and I've always considered them on par with Marui as far as quality is concerned. I currently have one of their newer mp5's and am very happy with it. Metal body, great motor, fast trigger response and ROF, and a breeze to disassemble. All of this for only $215! I have heard of a few cases of trouble here and there with tappet plates, wire connections, ect., but that was a few years ago. From what I understand, to date, they have made the necessary changes to work the bugs out. They also have some really great innovations you can't find on other brands, like a cocking tube laser for their mp5, and a split-style gear box on their m4, so you can change your cylider set right there in the field with nothing more than a phillips screwdriver. This year they've even come out with a 3-shot burst aeg! Some of their guns are a little pricy, but they boast cutting-edge technogy. Also, you may have heard of their sister company, VFC. 'Nuff said?
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Also, you may have heard of their sister company, VFC. 'Nuff said?
I don't think this is entirely true. VFC is Vega Force Company and ICS is I Chih Shivan. They are both made in Taiwan but I don't think they sister companies. I could be wrong, but a quick internet search yielded no results.
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Well, maybe it's the same distributer if not the same manufacturer, but I know I've seen the brands catergorized together, like with KWA/KSC, there's been other cases where different brands left the same factory.
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Oh yeah, now I remember. If you look at ICS guns on******they're manufacturer is listed as ICS/VFC. I saw the same reference in Team SD's forum a while back and they've been an ICS service center for years. Reguardless, both brands make awesome stuff. Anything made in Taiwan is pretty much a safe bet.
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Oops, let me rephrase that. If you look online at one of the evil, over-powering, self absorbed, monopolizing, opportunistic, croperate bull dozer dealerships, you'll find both brands listed under the same manufacturer. Believe me, I have no love for that company either. They burned me a few years ago on a pair of deepfire hand grenades. Neither worked properly, if at all, and do think they honored my warranty? Nooooooooooo, not them. This was an early, expensive lesson on buying online. Today I shop where I shoot, if I surf the online shops it's just to snoop around and see what's out there. If I can't get it at my local store, chances are I don't want it.
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My only issue with ICS is the proprietary parts (assuming they still do this?), as jon mentioned, if the wrong thing goes bad, you may be in a bit of trouble trying to find a replacement.
OP: Get a KWA M4 if it's in your price range. Solid guns, and lots of replacement/upgrade parts should you ever feel it necessary. I'm not actually a big m4 fan, but the availabilty of parts won me over.
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this is a super necro-thread, as it is i am now a fanboy of gas. AEGs arent as consistent for me. i have really bad luck.
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I recently have become a member of the ICS owners brotherhood through an amazing deal on ebay on one of their MP5SD's. I can't wait to get the thing because what I've always heard is that ICS is pretty much the cadillac of the MP5's.
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I wouldnt go as far as Caddy... but maybe like a corvette. Still a good car but you dont have the luxery's you have from the caddy. I owned a mp5 from ics for a short while but i didnt like it when it broke. It was more money for the maintence that had to be done on it. But i will say when they work they work good.
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I also had one a few years ago that kept braking. The older ones had better externals than internals. In fact, I was so mad I swore to boycott ICS for life. Over the last few years however, I've read several claims that they've corrected former problems. This and the affordable price of the MOD 5's finally wore me down enough to give them another shot, and so far, I don't regret it. I've had it since Febuary, probably have 2k rnds through it, and not so much as a hiccup. The old one's are easy to spot. The new one's have a heat sink motor plate, the old one's don't. Also, they have a slotted motor mount screw, while the old one's have an allen screw. And last, the new one's no longer have a Special Weapons Inc. logo.
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That's a great little bit of information porkchop! That let's me know mine is a newer one with the heat sink and missing the Special Weapons Inc. not anywhere to be found on the gun.
I got mine knowing it had a wiring issue. I spent a good 8-10 hours at Bash's house last weekend while Recon and Bash worked on guns of thier own. It was quite amusing as we ALL had issues getting the guns to work and what not, but we teamed up to help each problem solved. My ICS didn't seem to want to even out until I threw in a new wiring harness that Recon had pulled out of his DMR and offered to anyone that wanted it. After that I ended up breaking one of the wire connection tabs off teh ICS motor. Bash then gave me his TM EG700 motor to throw into it. I did some minor upgrades and wired it to Deans. Right now this this screams with only a large (1800mah) sized 8.4v battery. Trigger response is great too. I need to chrono it to find out weather or not it's a SoGo gun or a field gun. One thing to add is that it is VERY accurate to boot. So far, I am very pleased with my ICS.
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Good to hear, Metal. Too bad your motor flag snapped off. The turbo 3000 is one of the better stock motors on the market. If you can find one, the Marui EG1000 would really make it scream. Also, check and see if the end cap to the cocking tube unscrews. If it does, ICS has a laser for about 30 bucks that screws right in, and is dead on at 40ft. I like to sit on my deck and use mine to shoot red wasps. I have an A3, but I'm not sure if the SD's have this feature or not. If yours does, I recommend picking one up.
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Post a picture. I would like to see what your talking about.
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I would if I could, Shifty, but my camera is missing. If I find it I will, otherwise you can find other photos of on google. It's the same laser used in the ICS peq box. When screwed into the end off the mp5's cocking tube, you run the wire through the foregrip and have a self contained laser that sits right above the barrel. pressure switch is included. Although this accessory has been available for several years, I haven't seen anyone else with one. I really like it.
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I know, I know, I've been stuck on this thread for days now. But to get back to the original question, I wanted to let netshark know that I did find a short review on the CXP in a back issue of Airsoft International (vol.6 iss.3). I know you're strictly a gas gunner at present, however if you do decide to give aeg's another chance the CXP, from what I've read, would be an excellent choice. According to AI comes with ball bearing bushings and the ROF is around 950rpm w/a 9.6. That's pretty inpressive. The GB is their "split style" so the cylinder set can be changed fast and easy. Also, the forward assist button when pushed will relax the spring automaticaly. Not to mention, the externals are very unique and give it a wicked appearance. No, I'm not a sales rep for ICS. I just like discussing what's new and different. Don't even get me started on KWA's! (lol)