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Things need to change and players need to look at all sides
« on: February 18, 2015, 02:35:51 PM »
Wow. This is starting to go down the wrong path. And there are even more videos popping up. You will see and hear so much wrong on this video!!!  Pay attention to how the news reporter describes what's going on.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/02/17/caught-on-camera-war-game-gets-out-of-hand-at-airsoft-range/

This crap is getting out of hand. I see more and more players getting upset and thinking they can swear and yell at other players. We all get shot. And we all shoot someone accidentally in the wrong way. (Friendly fire or within safety kill distance). If you are upset just step out of the game and calm down. This is suppose to be FUN. And it is Fun.
But there has been so much, over the Top, attitude going on around the country. And many videos to prove it. Some of these videos are criminal. And soooo unnecessary.
I have some young kids that are starting down this path. And we are trying everything to stop it. It isn't your job to call other people's hits. And then threaten them with more if they don't call their hits. Tell a ref. give as much detail on that person. To many times the description sounds like 75% of the players out there. And we don't want to be calling out good players for something they didn't do.
Stop the Drama. There are a lot of different playing styles. So keep that in mind. Not everybody plays like you. But we all want honest players. And we want everyone in our airsoft community to represent each other and enjoy playing the game.
If someone yells to the guy they thought they shot. "Didn't I hit you?"  The guy usually just says I didn't feel it or it hit my gun. Or whatever. And the game goes on. But when a player thinks he knows everything and starts swearing at the other player. Yelling at them and threatening them.   It sets the tone to an entirely different level. And escalates quickly. Even effecting the other players around it. Makes it No fun for anyone.
I have lost a bunch of players because of this exact attitude. And unfortunately only a small percentage can see the mistake. And the other just keep going acting like they are sharp shooters in airsoft and never miss. And also think they know 100% of the time whether they have been hit or not. When those of us know that so many things can influence what you feel and hear. 
We have players that talk the talk about bringing up and helping the new players along. And still knowing the age group of most of these players are teenagers. But you watch their videos and actual game play. And you hear nothing but swearing throughout a simple briefing. Then they see those same veteran players go on the attack. swearing and yelling at the opponents for not taking their hits or getting all defensive when someone says the exact same thing to them.  Why set that tone?
I had a kid roll his eyes at me when I told him not to play in his neighborhood. After attending a party here. Even after I told him why. And told him the stories of kids getting shot. The parents didn't react the way they should either.

Thanks for letting me vent a bit.
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« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 10:09:26 AM by Supercell »

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Re: Things need to change and players need to understand some things
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 02:57:24 PM »
Sorry for the long post.  I had it even longer to help explain things a bit better.  But Lyn thought I better cut it down. And explain more if needed.
I just keep seeing things moving the wrong way.  But I know there is hope because there are good players and always hope.

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Re: Things need to change and players need to look at all sides
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2015, 06:26:08 PM »
I want to add that there are a lot of businesses like my own that do a great job with these issues.  Have great safety briefings and the way they deal with the player keeps things up beat and positive for the playing experience they are presenting.  And that's what this industry needs.  Again we all get heated sometimes.  But to be man enough to get off the field and calm down.  And then talk it out with the other player if the issue went overboard.  I know there are some folks that don't even want to do that.  Because they haven't calmed down.
Let the refs do their jobs.  But help keep the tone fun.  Nice shot... High five...  Great slide...That kind of thing.  Again, this is suppose to be fun.  And IS FUN.

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Re: Things need to change and players need to look at all sides
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2015, 11:12:09 PM »
On a related note: Posting "cheater videos" on YouTube is (in my opinion) completely unacceptable. If you have a problem with another player, you bring it to the refs and let them do their jobs. When you fail to let the refs know of a problem and then take it to the internet where anyone can pitch in their two cents, you make the field you are playing at look like they don't care. I cannot tell you how many times I have tried looking at gameplay from various fields and have only found ill-tempered "cheater videos" that turned me off the field completely. Prime example: Toxic Airsoft. The search results for this field are almost completely cheater videos, which originally made me think "Man, these guys must have some terrible staff". Until I realized that most of the videos were posted by only one channel! Why would anyone do that to a field they play at so much? What good is it doing? Luckily So Go Airsoft search results are mostly fun, friendly gameplay. But when one player "sticks it" to another player, it just makes the So Go staff look like a bunch of chumps. It doesn't matter how long you have played, or even how long you've played at So Go. If you aren't wearing that yellow vest, you are NOT a ref, and "taking matters into your own hands" is only going to cause more issues (whether it be now or further down the road). The day that I look up "So Go Airsoft" on YouTube and find only cheater videos is the day that airsoft in the Ozarks loses all credibility. It's already to the point where simply searching "Airsoft" brings up cheater videos. And I don't think any of us want to be associated with a sport like that. To sum things up: take care of your field, and it will take care of you.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2015, 11:21:19 PM by MickeyD »
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Re: Things need to change and players need to look at all sides
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 12:15:35 AM »
Very good point Mickey.

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Re: Things need to change and players need to look at all sides
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2015, 09:41:49 AM »
I really do agree with you mickey for sure that. I will also like to add on this video is that I think jon touched on is the walkout... I believe that the walkout is the best thing ever. If you get heated just walk it out... count to 10 and get out of building, smoke, drink or whatever just get out of the situation. Because if you try to talk to the person you didn't see there side of the situation so you maybe like "OMG you shot me so close" when the other person might have just gotten freaked out and didn't apologize. Shit happens always walk it out
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