what gear is better

[moondog]

tell me and every one else who sees this what gear u think is better thanks

[Dragon]

I would have to say....

It depends on what ya are going for...

 511 brand, supposedly is "better" quality, yet other than few minor things like thread count, doesn't seem any better or worse quality wise as Condor.

 I mean, it' s not like any of this stuff is Eagle Industry , or Blackhawk brand , that would hold up to real steel combat situations.

Though, I've met a few police and real steel folks, that actually use and like Condor products, over more "expensive brands". 

 BUT... it's all about individual taste, which just like AEGs and GBBs... you'll have some that like and swear by one brand, and others will disagree.

[ShootEmUp]

I totally agree with Dragon, a lot of people will buy from only one brand and praise it mainly because they have had bad experiances or heard something once about other guns. I don't agree with that but people do what they want to do and I'm not gonna stop them or make a fuss about it, it just depends on one's opinion and personal taste.

[netshark993]

Voo Doo tactical, is quality, decently priced, and i can get it locally, i wont touch condor ever agin, all 3 of my condor pouches have broken withing the first month of use.

[Supercell]

We started carrying the Voodoo line about month or so.  I do like it.  With the store it just seems to come down to what we can get from each one when we need it.

Jon
So Go Airsoft

[Metal]

BlackHawk and HSGI are the best I've seen. All the gear is designed intelligently and with common sense. Condor and Voodoo are ok for a while, but once they've seen some use, the seems can give out and the fabric frays when it's treated rough. BlackHawk and HSGI don't suffer from these alements. The HSGI Taco pouch is hands down one of the greatest piece of kit I've seen. It's expensive yes, but worth it.

On the subject of using Condor and Voodoo for RS. It may work for a while, but I see it quickly giving out after heavy use.

[Dragon]

yeah, I think they all do after a bit of use...

Molle just doesn't hold up like alice or malice gear did.

of course, it isn't as heavy either, and more modular.

[Reverandff7]

I like the Voodoo line myself considering all the condor equipment i have purchased has fallen apart within a month or 2. I can not say i can give them props, but then again everyone i talk to says that i might have gotten some bad stuff i dont know. So that is the reason why i made my vote the way i did.

[moondog]

yea you guys are right voodoo and black halk are really good but to what dragon said um 5.11 gear is for reall steel use too u should [Link to nonsponsoring retailer deleted] its all the carry it with out a doubt stand rite beside voodoo and black halk

[Dragon]

I had Voodoo gloves... they tore on my first time wearing em.  

I have a Voodoo PC ( thanks MSE ) ... and it' s no better quality wise than the Condor Full PC I usually wear.

 I don't doubt 511 is intended for RS application... But, I think it's alot like most "products" on the market... it's a fad/ desired because of name brand... It's no better than Blackhawk gear... and , Blackhawk in my opinion, makes some good stuff, and some not so good stuff.
( and why they think everyone has short legs, and beer bellies, I will never understand! )

 Like I said though, It's what you wanna do with it that matters though.

 Lets make a example real quick...

 Alright, you have "pros" that want the best of the best of the best... you will notice these guys out there, with the REAL steel EOtechs and latest and greatest gadgetry on their rifles, guns, helmets, and their load out is almost all AUTHENTIC and expensively acquired.  

 For Airsoft, ok.. yeah well, they might look "cool" ... hey after all, it's nice expensive stuff... but, to me, it's flat out OVERKILL for airsoft or combat simulation.

Same with plate carriers, belts, pouches...ect.
You can go with the "best of the best, of the best" gear... spend that money on it, and MAYBE it will last a year or two longer than a cheaper brand ... under heavy use, MAYBE.
And guess what else... next year, a new style/color/ or even system is out on the market... , now what ya got, even if it did last is used, and "outdated"...  you are no longer HSLD , and now it's time for another expensive "outfit".

 Now, mind you, I think even Condor products and Voodoo are way over-priced for what they are, and what semi-good quality you get out of em as well.

 But, I use my gear for Airsoft, MilSim, and Combat Simulation... it's going to get used, eventually everything wears out... even velcro.
But if Zombie Apocalypse broke out tomorrow... I also Know I could use what I have, even for real steel until it did decide to fail me flat out.

somethings are just better than others... of course...

but practical application , and expense to me play a big part of things.

 I don't care if it's 511, VooDoo... EagleI ... or a China clone.  If it works, it works.

[Reverandff7]

Here Here Dragon... i like the fact that you didnt push your opinions bro that was nicely put. For everyone its different... i mean i look at JoeJoe's loadouts that i have seen at sogo and it just looks crazy! Looks like everything is seperate brands and just meshed together, but he looks comfortable(was gonna say comfee but didnt want to get hit by the gramer police  jk). I like the way joe has his stuff and i like looking at Jon's WV loadout that was cool looking. I have a UTG ACU tac vest... and i have a china made battle uniform multicam and its falling apart mainly cause i am not taking good care of it... but its comfortable even though its china stuff. I use to wear some of my Dad's old Uniform stuff from his time in the mil... but its not comfortable.
     I really think that if you want to get down to it... even the cheapest drell(farscape referance) can be possibly better then the more expensive stuff cause its all how its worn and taken care of. I know someone here in STL that uses an OLD OLD OLD OLD mil cloths his dad used in korea... and he takes care of them and those things are looking prestean. Very used but that makes them so much more comforable... Anyways point being is it doesnt matter what magazine...book...person... company claims they have the best out there... they are only talking about in a general population not IS ALL END ALL PERFECT GEAR! Anyways thats my statement... would you like to add anything else to that Dragon?

[Dragon]

Sounds good to me...

 I mean, look... I got alot of gear myself..., and look sat what I don most the time...

 at Sogos, I wear a cheapo china made mesh skull mask.  And what-ever tac gear I feel like wearing.

 My knee and elbow pads are older, and finally about to wear out after 3 years of heavy use... and those are actually skateboard pads, but they fit better and stay in place compared to what tac gear you can find in that area. My kneepads, do not slip down or ride up.

 Out on the field, I have a mostly OD green PC ( Condor), it suffices for my needs/wants... and has some black pouches and some OD green ones.  Honestly, I thought it looked worse with all OD green, kinda monotone even.
 I like mis-matched, reminds me of a battlefield "spoils" collector.

 I like odd and different ( much to the chagrin of my fellow MilSimmers, lol ) , even some futuristic looking stuff I've seen... , but thats because I can think outside the box.

 I think I was gonna go do a complete C-Brown look , for the new PC I won in a raffle at MSe's event... but, once again, I find myself with more black pouches, and since I was gonna use it for either a pistol load-out ( I might change my mind on that though, and go with another tac vest for that) for Sogos, or run my MP5 load-out on it... I will probably mis-match it as well.

 You see, as long as it works, and isn't too much a hassle... I will use it.

I still wear an alice belt/w suspenders ... I like the Molle battle belts, more modular... but my alice gear has yet to fail me, and I don't see a need to "switch" , just becasue something new was out there.

[moondog]

amen to that and by the way that was perfetly put so good job to that as well that is a good mado to go by " If it works! It works.And i guess i was manily asking because every time i go into sogo some one makes fun of my camo type and frankly i think its funny but still it cant hurt to ask right???

[Metal]

If I ONLY played airsoft/milsim, I don't think I'd ever pay the extra $$$ for anything besides Condor and Voodoo. But the fact is that I do a good deal of RS and as much as I'd hoped the Condor and Voodoo stuff would hold up well, it doesn't. I'm also a firm believer in the idea that if you do RS, you should use the same or very similar gun/gear setups in both realms for better training. In doing this, I've already noticed a dramatic increase in by abilities with my AK's and my reload speeds continue to get faster.

In that light, I have to expect more from my gear.

As of lately Condor has been stepping up their game and making better stuff. Voodoo in all honestly is really not on that much higher level than Condor. There for a while suspisions were floating around that Voodoo was even just rebranded or re-tagged Condor products.

[wanna b bada$$]

When I where camo I end up looking more like what dragon sayed I look like a battlefield scavanger as to I like "comfee" stuff because as I first started out playing and still do with my group we park in the field gear out and then don't go back till the next day ruffly 24 to 36 hours of play no reloads at the car the only thing that stops us is bats but back on topic I where what I where because it works and fits and won't bug/rub/chafe me and I have everthing from rs to cheap china to walmart cr apit all works and brand and color don't matter to me.... also I have a dumb question for all of you guys why do u camo out for cqb ne and most of my team have never undersood why everyone dose unless ur camo is plywood wouldn't it be easyer and COOLER in summer to go in your gear and jeans and tshirt? I was just throwing that out there