GBBR VS. KWA ERG

[Rockstar]

So, I was looking around at gbbr's and I stumbled upon the KWA ERG's. I was wondering what your guys thoughts are as for the pro's and con's for running either one. What do you guys think would be best? How is the ERG's recoil compared to a gbbr? I do know however that a few pluses to running the ERG is that it will run during the winter and the magazines are a fraction of the cost of a gbbr mag. But then again, you lose the realism of the weight of the mags. Thoughts?

[Metal]

I used to own a WE Tech M14 GBBR and I loved it. That being said, I sold it because I could only use it for part of the year. The weight of the mags was something I liked at first but grew to hate. It also shot almost 500fps making it limited to the Sniper role which I didn't necessarily like playing all the time. But when I did use it for that role, it was an almost euphoric experience to feel that recoil and see my target's reaction to the hit. All that being said, I sold it because it wasn't getting used hardly at all.

I am also now an owner of a KWA ERG. I got one as soon as they were released even with the bad taste in my mouth that I had from the 2GX version AEG's. The recoil is suprisingly impressive. Everyone doubts it (including myself) until they experience it. I also try to only use the ERG specific PMags that can be switched from holding 30rds to 60rds. I also love the fact that it was setup with a. 14.5" barrel and a mid length handguard system. The reason I enjoy those specifics so much is that me real steel 5.56 AR is the same way (14.5" barrel, middy gas system) making it the most ideal training/MilSim replica on the market for me. Mine is now setup exactly like my real steel and the training transfers from airsoft to real steel perfectly. My only gripe is that you absolutely can NOT wire it to the rear due to the recoil system unless you want wires being exposed and have a battery bag on your stock. I have attended a couple OPs now with this replica and I love it. One being SoGo's Zombie Outbreak where I figured out a way to lower the FPS in order to use it.

Overall, if you're only going to be usin it mostly indoors at SoGo, a GBBR will be a really fun option that probably won't give you much trouble. If you plan to use it outside for bigger OPs or game days, be prepared for it to sit dormant for at least half the year. The ERG on the other hand is a little soeacial when it comes to downgrading the FPS for CQB, but once it's done and you know how to do it then swithig back and forth from indoor to outdoor events won't be a problem at all and it will be a great all-year-around replica.

*if I had to do it all over again with the knowledge I have now, I wouldn't even consider a GBBR.

[Rockstar]

Right now the only GBBR I own is the KJW KC-02. I've hated having it sitting in my closet the last 5 months honestly. I haven't had time to truly sight it in and I haven't had heavy enough bb's to actually make it shoot the way it was meant to be shot. However, during the summer, I think it will make for a pleasant experience.

I watched a few videos of the ERG's and the recoil didn't seem too strong so I considered that kind of a downside. How would you compare the recoil to that of a GBBR? Also I would like to know how you reduced the fps if I decide to get one. It seems as though the ERG will cost just as much, maybe less including the price of the mags and from the sound of it be more reliable. Also, is it okay to use mid capacity (120 rds) magazines for prolonged use like say at a big operation? Or would that put a lot of strain on the recoil system?

Honestly right now, I am trying to decide between an ERG or the KWA Kriss Vector.

[Metal]

To lower the FPS you have to remove the stock then take the cap of the buffer tube. After that you have free access to the recoil system and access to the main spring. I simply threw in a short M100 spring. There is another piece of a spring on the opposite side of the main spring from the recoil weight that buffers the impact of the weight against the buffer tube cap. I left the original stuff spring in but ended up loosing a lot of the recoil effect. I think one could take a full length M100 and clip it to put the lover portion as the main spring and the small section as the buffer spring and retain the recoil effect. KWA suggests 11.1 lipo in stock form and I back that decision 100%, his ever if you lower the FPS you will have to go to a 7.4 lipo or a similar battery or the gun will double fire every time.

The recoil compared to say a WE M4 with green gas is actually fairly close. Trust me, the videos don't do it justice. It's more impressive than it looks.

[Rockstar]

Well from all the information that you've given, the ERG definitely seems like a viable alternative. I'm getting more and more intrigued. I am liking the scout version because it seems like it is the perfect length and fps for outdoors, which I will most likely use it for since I have a plethora of guns to use at SoGo already.

[Metal]

Oh, and no, using standard mid aps will not damage the ERG in any way. It just simply won't stop firing when you're out of ammo like the PTS mags will.

[Fenix031882]

I actually own the kwa magpul erg, the gun is amazing from almost every aspect.  I wouldn't even consider a gbbr after owning one (i've owned a kc-02 and have shot several varieties of gbbr ranging from we open bolt scar to a m14)

[Rockstar]

Yeah I currently own a KJW KC-02 and I like it pretty well. Need to fix a couple leaky mags but other than that it performs fairly decent. I think as far as practical use, it would take some investment and time to make it perform well at SoGo.

I don't have much interest in using a GBBR outdoors just do to the fact that while it may be ultra realistic, the sheer practicality factor isn't there. Especially since other players can carry hundreds of rounds on them at the same time. That being said, what it mainly comes down to is what will be the most practical, yet fun to use at SoGo. The semi auto only rule evens the playing field significantly, so running a low mag capacity is just more time to practice trigger control.