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aeg or gbb

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Voting closed: December 28, 2011, 10:32:34 PM

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gas or aeg
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:32:34 PM »
I've looked into both aegs and gbb extensively, but found good and bad things about both. for one, gbbs are more durable in my opinion than aegs and more realistic with the kick and low cap magazines, but aegs are cheaper and easier to handle. I almost bought a we tech g39 a while ago but backed out when I fell in love with a g&g mp5.

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Re: gas or aeg
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 10:55:20 AM »
Your first question needs to be...  Or shall I say we all need to know if you are looking for CQB or for outdoor gun?  Or even just your first gun and not sure what you will be using it for.

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Re: gas or aeg
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 11:16:26 AM »
AEGs are the best bang for your money, and alot easier to work on, and parts are cheaper in the long run.

 The WE G36 GBBR is also something I've drooled over quite a while...
So far the one I've seen in real life, has held up well to very harsh testing.

 However, just the mags themselves are an expensive venture... almost 50 bucks a piece, and they only hold 30 rounds.  To be "competitive" at any level against AEGs with mids, you'd need at least 10 mags for ammo capacity, and thats only going to give ya 300 rounds, at 500 bucks.

 The guy I know who bought one, claimed it came with a airflow reducer in the box, that is supposto lower the FPS for CQB FPS, but I still do not think it lowers it enough for SOGO play... and, I can't honestly tell by any place that has them in stock, that part actually comes with the replica.  ( I think his was a fluke).

So primarily, it'd be a field grade GBBR , fun to shoot... but unless everyone used a GBBR, you'd be at a severe disadvantage, both in ammo, and range capacity.

 Also, keep in mind, the cold weather months, are not gas friendly at all...
Which is the other reason I'm holding back on the We G36 myself.


 

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 12:05:35 PM »
i have the WE g39c i have played with it at sogo twice so far. it has held up vary well and i have no prob with it at all. beside i droped a mag the last even and broke the lip on it so i will need to replace it. mag are about 40$ each i dont think its that bad of a price. i have 3 of em right now and hardly ever run out of ammo if i place my shots right. (32 shots per mag)and no the gas flow reducer dose not come with the gun you have to buy it from RAtech. they make a thing called the Nopas it reduced your fps from around 280 to about 480 or so. the only thing i dont like is i need to clean the thing alot to keep it running smoothly. besides that its a gun i would recommend for more experienced players that dont need to spray a target to hit it. and it is slight more $$ then most aeg's in the long run. also not many parts need to replace vary offten they are vary durable and last a long time.

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 12:27:40 PM »
personally, i am in love with gas rifles. i have no plans to go back to AEGs, as i have the worst luck ever with them. I have been eyeballing the new VFC G36 and theVFC MP5's
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 06:37:37 PM »
Gas rifles are awesome and more durable. However, aegs are more bang for your buck and are easier to work on. another plus is they are cheaper

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Re: gas or aeg
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 06:57:32 PM »
Gas rifles... i would only say that i am interested in only 1... and its not even out yet. Vector KRISS... only gas rifle. Now if your talking about pistols thats something completely different. For rifles i would still prefer AEG over Gas
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 08:12:17 PM »
honestly i think a gas rifle is better investment, i have less breakdowns with gas. and if youre looking for a gas rile. my buddy honky is selling a WE PDW-Long for $250 with 4 mags. its barely been used. i think he is trying to get a polar star.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 08:27:34 PM »
I might be selling all my guns I just got my polar star today and it's amazing. It's making all my guns look like crap. So if your friend is getting a polar star that's a vary smart idea IMO. I also have a few WE guns they have been vary good to me I love em.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 08:50:06 PM »
Yeah like Reverandff7 said, if you're talking about rifles than definately AEG. I would never buy a gas rifle; I personally think it's a waste of time, but that is just my opinion and who cares about my opinion. Although, if you're talking about pistols than definately gas. I would never buy a springer pistol just because you might as well have a pea shooter; which is also my opinion but who ca...you get my point.

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 04:10:12 AM »
GBBR's are in fact not more reliable or durable than a good AEG. Manufacturer's are just now making somewhat reliable GBBR's. Gas guns are a whole metric s*** ton of fun though, there's not doubt there. The problem with the gas guns though is that they're pretty much useless when it starts getting cold. Also gas guns tend to be less consistant and can be tempermental opposed to AEG's. I've had a WE M14 GBBR for about a year now, and it's wonderful. I always love shooting that thing, but I simply don't get the chance to use it very often due to temperatures so for a little less than half the year it sets in the gun rack. Some guys are probably gonna get on here and start bringing up using Co2 instead of green gas or propane, but the fact is that some GBBR's are simply not made to handle Co2 and in using such a gas is going to end up breaking something in your gun sooner rather than later. I know a guy that has a WE M4 that has been nothing but a pain in his booty since he got it and the one he had before this one was the same way. Even the new KA M4A1's are constantly breaking the loading nozzles. Other than the WE M14 which seems to be and is rumored to be one of the more reliable GBBR's out there, KWA seems to make the only GBBR's worth investing in. But then again, KWA has always made great gas guns (aside from their recent P226 NS2 debocle).

As it stands right now, GBBR's have allot of catching up to do with AEG's. If you're going for MilSim are need that added realism of the standard capacity mags, that cost a testicle or two for each extra mag, and the recoil (what little there is) then yeah, a GBBR would be good. But until you're ready to REALLY sink some money into a gun and mags and junk, stick with AEG's.

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Re: gas or aeg
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 02:25:48 PM »
           Metal i totally agree on this. I believe that people that do buy the GBBR are not buying for reliability as they are buying it for looks feel... i mean guys you all use mid caps or standard mags for the feel of the reload right? The point being in airsoft there isnt a "Kick" but most people that buy the gbbr's are looking for that little kick to make it even more realistic... for them. Like going back on my statement earlier for actual use it makes more sense to use an AEG unless you really want that "kick" feeling.
           
            Also on that note you can even get an electric recoil system M4 or AK so if you still want that kick you can also get those aswell. As far as the actual topic though Pistols=GBB(since the electric versions are AEP hehe) and Rifles=AEG
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 04:38:49 PM »
I use mids, cause you don't have to wind em, and they feed better.

Plus, it's a bit more realism in play, when you have to switch mags. 
I think, the Support weapons, and LMGs should have high capacity mags... as that also adds to a "realism" factor.

 The GBBRs... are fun to shoot.  They sound better than any AEG can provide ( forget about being quiet though, unless you silence/suppress a DMR/Sniping rifle ).
when I hear one on the battle field, I smile... they have a distinctive sound, and seems more immersive than electric ratt-a-tats.
 Maintaining one though, is a chore.  I do believe any GBBR I've seen, requires even more cleaning and inspection than a Real Steel does, in order for it to work properly. 
Parts are more expensive, as are the Mags, which ALSO need cleaning and inspection after EVERY use.

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 07:47:47 PM »
           Metal i totally agree on this. I believe that people that do buy the GBBR are not buying for reliability as they are buying it for looks feel... i mean guys you all use mid caps or standard mags for the feel of the reload right? The point being in airsoft there isnt a "Kick" but most people that buy the gbbr's are looking for that little kick to make it even more realistic... for them. Like going back on my statement earlier for actual use it makes more sense to use an AEG unless you really want that "kick" feeling.
           
            Also on that note you can even get an electric recoil system M4 or AK so if you still want that kick you can also get those aswell. As far as the actual topic though Pistols=GBB(since the electric versions are AEP hehe) and Rifles=AEG
Actually, i have much better luck with GBBR's than any AEG. the only AEG that i havnet had problems with was my KA thompson. and the person who bought it from me is now experiencing issues. all the Gas guns i have ever owned have been unfailably reliable, and have never given me an issue. my next purchase is either a WE m14, or a Western arms M4.
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Re: gas or aeg
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 09:11:41 PM »
Realistically you should have one of each. If one goes down then use the other. If your going to spend the money on a good gas gun and then buy all the mags, you should be able to afford an AEG as a backup.

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